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Post by Slovan Stags GM on Aug 13, 2022 10:43:07 GMT -8
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Post by Atlanta Thrashers GM on Aug 13, 2022 10:47:44 GMT -8
Watch out for the cat
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Post by retro on Aug 13, 2022 11:04:37 GMT -8
So Serikow is +1 or not?
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Post by Slovan Stags GM on Aug 13, 2022 11:30:08 GMT -8
Everyone on list is +1 UNLESS they MVP or otherwise stated at bottom
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Post by Junkie Piece of Shit on Aug 13, 2022 11:59:22 GMT -8
SEIDER
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Post by Iasi Scorpions GM on Aug 13, 2022 14:42:42 GMT -8
OMG I hope this isn't the plan for the future, because this would be a joke!!!!!
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Post by Slovan Stags GM on Aug 13, 2022 16:56:42 GMT -8
OMG I hope this isn't the plan for the future, because this would be a joke!!!!! Gotta be honest man, I don’t think I’ve ever logged in once and seen you say something positive about ANYTHING we do I get it. You hate it all, and it’s all a joke to you. Literally everything Ive tried to do you just kinda shit on. Like, maybe it’s not the league for you if you just want to hate on it all the time You know I appreciate a ton all the work you do on the boxscores, but man do I feel like that isn’t reciprocated at all. Be nice to login to comment that says “hey nice job” from you : /
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Post by Sokolina Hussars GM on Aug 13, 2022 18:18:26 GMT -8
OMG I hope this isn't the plan for the future, because this would be a joke!!!!!
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Post by Iasi Scorpions GM on Aug 13, 2022 18:25:26 GMT -8
OMG I hope this isn't the plan for the future, because this would be a joke!!!!! Gotta be honest man, I don’t think I’ve ever logged in once and seen you say something positive about ANYTHING we do I get it. You hate it all, and it’s all a joke to you. Literally everything Ive tried to do you just kinda shit on. Like, maybe it’s not the league for you if you just want to hate on it all the time You know I appreciate a ton all the work you do on the boxscores, but man do I feel like that isn’t reciprocated at all. Be nice to login to comment that says “hey nice job” from you : / yes I feel the same way. I don't feel appreciated either. I don't feel like I ever know what is going on on here. I just don't like the upgrades to this part. I liked the world juniors but with this one the top stacked teams would just continue to get better and the low teams would just keep get pounded on. Does anybody know for real what the next part is going to be or are we still trying to figure it out. This is the last season for this one and I have no clue what is going to happen after this one. Draft? Yes? No?
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Post by Iasi Scorpions GM on Aug 13, 2022 18:29:25 GMT -8
OMG I hope this isn't the plan for the future, because this would be a joke!!!!! Yes I know I am just a big joke to you guys. I know the guys that have been with me forever and respect me but I see all the jokes in here. I thank all of those guys. I probably would have killed myself along time ago if it wasn't for them. But I see my days are numbered in here. I will stick around as long as I feel this is tsill any fun and then and I am gone.
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Post by Sokolina Hussars GM on Aug 13, 2022 18:34:55 GMT -8
Gotta be honest man, I don’t think I’ve ever logged in once and seen you say something positive about ANYTHING we do I get it. You hate it all, and it’s all a joke to you. Literally everything Ive tried to do you just kinda shit on. Like, maybe it’s not the league for you if you just want to hate on it all the time You know I appreciate a ton all the work you do on the boxscores, but man do I feel like that isn’t reciprocated at all. Be nice to login to comment that says “hey nice job” from you : / yes I feel the same way. I don't feel appreciated either. I don't feel like I ever know what is going on on here. I just don't like the upgrades to this part. I liked the world juniors but with this one the top stacked teams would just continue to get better and the low teams would just keep get pounded on. Does anybody know for real what the next part is going to be or are we still trying to figure it out. This is the last season for this one and I have no clue what is going to happen after this one. Draft? Yes? No? You are by far the most appreciated account on any sim site I'm apart of. Literally see guys thanking you constantly for box scores, myself included. You haven't once thanked Slovan Stags GM or myself for the work we do on either of our sites, but you are the first to complain when something doesn't make sense to you or go your way. It's frustrating to put in all the work for a site just to have someone so valued like yourself constantly nag about things that are transparent. You understand how much work goes into box scores and its honestly such a huge help for the longevity and success of this site for you to take that role. Yet take that amount of time you spend on box scores and multiply it by 10 cause thats the amount of work Slovan Stags GM and I both put in to keep a sim league alive and well. If you still have no clue about the direction of this league after this season, then I'm not sure explaining it to you here will help since its already been made clear. Your activity is damn appreciated, it makes things worth it when members are invested as much as you, however gratitude and respect are a two way street; you can't constantly be on one end of it.
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Post by Iasi Scorpions GM on Aug 13, 2022 18:53:07 GMT -8
yes I feel the same way. I don't feel appreciated either. I don't feel like I ever know what is going on on here. I just don't like the upgrades to this part. I liked the world juniors but with this one the top stacked teams would just continue to get better and the low teams would just keep get pounded on. Does anybody know for real what the next part is going to be or are we still trying to figure it out. This is the last season for this one and I have no clue what is going to happen after this one. Draft? Yes? No? You are by far the most appreciated account on any sim site I'm apart of. Literally see guys thanking you constantly for box scores, myself included. You haven't once thanked Slovan Stags GM or myself for the work we do on either of our sites, but you are the first to complain when something doesn't make sense to you or go your way. It's frustrating to put in all the work for a site just to have someone so valued like yourself constantly nag about things that are transparent. You understand how much work goes into box scores and its honestly such a huge help for the longevity and success of this site for you to take that role. Yet take that amount of time you spend on box scores and multiply it by 10 cause thats the amount of work Slovan Stags GM and I both put in to keep a sim league alive and well. If you still have no clue about the direction of this league after this season, then I'm not sure explaining it to you here will help since its already been made clear. Your activity is damn appreciated, it makes things worth it when members are invested as much as you, however gratitude and respect are a two way street; you can't constantly be on one end of it. Should just say nothing when I am confused or don't think something is fair?? Everything is just allowed and accepted and that just ends up with stacked teams with the bottom guys frustrated all to hell and quiting. Sorry but it has never been in me anywhere to just sit back and accept everything. I have always wanted to understand and be clear as to what is going on. Sorry
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Post by Slovan Stags GM on Aug 13, 2022 19:33:29 GMT -8
You are by far the most appreciated account on any sim site I'm apart of. Literally see guys thanking you constantly for box scores, myself included. You haven't once thanked Slovan Stags GM or myself for the work we do on either of our sites, but you are the first to complain when something doesn't make sense to you or go your way. It's frustrating to put in all the work for a site just to have someone so valued like yourself constantly nag about things that are transparent. You understand how much work goes into box scores and its honestly such a huge help for the longevity and success of this site for you to take that role. Yet take that amount of time you spend on box scores and multiply it by 10 cause thats the amount of work Slovan Stags GM and I both put in to keep a sim league alive and well. If you still have no clue about the direction of this league after this season, then I'm not sure explaining it to you here will help since its already been made clear. Your activity is damn appreciated, it makes things worth it when members are invested as much as you, however gratitude and respect are a two way street; you can't constantly be on one end of it. Should just say nothing when I am confused or don't think something is fair?? Everything is just allowed and accepted and that just ends up with stacked teams with the bottom guys frustrated all to hell and quiting. Sorry but it has never been in me anywhere to just sit back and accept everything. I have always wanted to understand and be clear as to what is going on. Sorry A couple things I want to say. And I’ve said this before, but I absolutely appreciate everything you do for this site. We wouldn’t be here without you stepping up, because I never would’ve made it through S1 of Rockem. That’s a fact. So again thank you. I’ve apologized to you before for keeping you out of loop sometimes. But I thought we came to a resolution on that? This job is hard. I’m not complaining. I love it. But sometimes I struggle with trying to keep things a surprise vs being fully transparent. You guys can say all day long that you’d prefer everything to be out in the open, but some surprises are good and help overall excitement and activity. I’m still finding my groove with that. I can be light on details when I’m still working things out. And even though it’s been pretty consistent, my schedule at home isn’t always. So when you don’t know something, it’s probably because I don’t even know. And rather than sending you updates every second of the way, I just let you get to shit when you get to it. I trust you at this point with stuff on here, and I’d hope I’ve gained a tiny bit of trust from most of you guys in regards to you know I’m just trying my best to have a system that works for everyone I take a bit of exception with you saying this system ends up with the best teams being the best and people are quiting over it. Uhhh, what league have you been in? We’ve had one of the lowest turnovers I’ve seen other than HLS reboot. The same 3 teams have been open this whole time pretty much so I don’t know where that’s coming from. The top 4 teams in terms of roster OAs and probably overall points have been TSE, TAL, MAD, and DRG. I can bet you they’d completely disagree with what you’re saying Sometimes I talk with other admin/mod so much about certain things, maybe I can take for granted how much I’ve communicated to the entire league. So if that’s the case, I apologize. But I know for a fact I’ve told this through PM to you, but here’s the info again The reboot is coming after this season World Cup was a 1 time thing. Maybe it makes an appearance at the END of the Reboot. I LIKE IT. I have fun with it. The Reboot will have a Fantasy Draft The Reboot will be awesome Again, there will be a thread with more info when the time comes. But that’s really all you need to know right now. It will be the same format as this, but like all good reboots will have a couple tweaks. Nothing Earth shattering. The main thing that matters is the admin mod team here is staying the same, the format is staying the same. How much more info do you need? And always critiques and suggestions, questions and complaints are welcome. But maybe be more constructive and consistent. There’s nothing worse than spending 8 hours working on something than to login and see someone who is supposed to be on Team PS5HL calling it joke
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Post by Seattle Spitfires GM on Aug 16, 2022 8:07:37 GMT -8
I do honestly get what Cooker's saying though. Some of us long time vets don't get the respect we deserve a lot of the time because we don't agree certain things or practices on the sites anymore cuz we've seen them work, or not work over the course of the last 18-20 years. Yet, a majority of the time, we're met with ridicule, "millennial-splaining", or, our personal favorite, "They do it IRL, so it's perfectly fine.". 🙄 Well, no it's not, cuz this isn't real life; it's a sim league. We don't have collective bargaining cuz our players aren't ever going to strike or get locked out. 🤷 The only time we're ever out if commission for any extended period of time is for a reboot. It's also a rarity, at least for myself, that anyone will help you out unless they're screwing you over somehow.
Say I need to drop some cap, and I make certain players available for that... but that's not the player's we get offers on, or it's "I'll take this guy, but you have to give me your best prospect(s) & a 2nd for taking on his salary.". Effectively trying to bully us into a trade cuz we're allegedly "desperate". Fuck off... 🙄 None of us are looking to gut our teams, yet that's the only offers, and trades, we seem to see lately; 3 1sts for 1 player, or "future considerations", like they ever have to pay up for that; in most cases they won't or don't.
That's just an example, and it's not everybody, but it is a majority, so Cooker isn't too far off the mark with his assertion that there's a lack of respect coming from you young'uns towards us old farts. It works both ways, but if we're not feeling respected, we're not going to respect you much either. Your own condescending & "I'm holier than thou" attitudes towards a lot this stuff is a big reason why us older guys become more vocal about things, and it comes across as more as complaining cuz we're already being disrespected just for even speaking a lot of the time, when we're already frustrated with something.
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Post by Slovan Stags GM on Aug 16, 2022 8:47:17 GMT -8
I do honestly get what Cooker's saying though. Some of us long time vets don't get the respect we deserve a lot of the time because we don't agree certain things or practices on the sites anymore cuz we've seen them work, or not work over the course of the last 18-20 years. Yet, a majority of the time, we're met with ridicule, "millennial-splaining", or, our personal favorite, "They do it IRL, so it's perfectly fine.". 🙄 Well, no it's not, cuz this isn't real life; it's a sim league. We don't have collective bargaining cuz our players aren't ever going to strike or get locked out. 🤷 The only time we're ever out if commission for any extended period of time is for a reboot. It's also a rarity, at least for myself, that anyone will help you out unless they're screwing you over somehow. Say I need to drop some cap, and I make certain players available for that... but that's not the player's we get offers on, or it's "I'll take this guy, but you have to give me your best prospect(s) & a 2nd for taking on his salary.". Effectively trying to bully us into a trade cuz we're allegedly "desperate". Fuck off... 🙄 None of us are looking to gut our teams, yet that's the only offers, and trades, we seem to see lately; 3 1sts for 1 player, or "future considerations", like they ever have to pay up for that; in most cases they won't or don't. That's just an example, and it's not everybody, but it is a majority, so Cooker isn't too far off the mark with his assertion that there's a lack of respect coming from you young'uns towards us old farts. It works both ways, but if we're not feeling respected, we're not going to respect you much either. Your own condescending & "I'm holier than thou" attitudes towards a lot this stuff is a big reason why us older guys become more vocal about things, and it comes across as more as complaining cuz we're already being disrespected just for even speaking a lot of the time, when we're already frustrated with something. I get you think everything is chance to bring it back to some BS you’ve been spouting at both sites ad nauseam This particular discussion wasn’t about anything you’re talking about or referencing. The lack of respect you’re talking about plays out in your head. But it’s definitely starting to become a reality on my end. We’re less than a week removed from you calling out everyone for not following the rules on World Cup when it’s pretty obvious it was you not paying attention. You can pretty much apply to that to most of your posts these days, attempting to make some unknown point that has either already been dealt with, or again comes from your lack of paying attention to the rules. It’s a bit comical, because this discussion before you showed up was also a bit about Cook not paying attention to numerous posts/talks/PMs about reboot. So in that way, they’re related Just because something comes up again, or a completely different issue comes up doesn’t somehow make your initial argument any better or more valid. You have trouble making trades? Maybe your assets suck. Have trouble dropping cap when EVERYONE knows you’re over and don’t have options? Ask your boy Dubas about Marleau. I’m not fixing a non existent problem that only YOU have complained about. Don’t attempt to piggy back on something unrelated and tie it to your BS I hate saying shit like this, and I hope you guys know I truly appreciate everyone’s activity. But if you don’t like what we do, maybe don’t sign up for reboot? I like to tweak things. I’m trying to come up with a system that works for most people. I like there to be as many irl options for you as feasible. No one else is having issues. As has been proven whenever you try to bring up the retentions and futures. Again hysterical, because I’m actually on your side a little on retentions, but no one else is lol. It really bothers me a bit when you act like this. As if I haven’t been completely open to suggestions since back at Rockem. Part of what slows us down sometimes is me getting feedback from everyone. You’re in the compete (single?) minority on this, and pretty much everything else you’ve complained about. 90% of your problems could be solved by READING, PAYING ATTENTION, and not making threads that make it look like you’re incompetent Holier than thou? Are you fucking kidding me right now? This coming from the guy who thinks EVERYONE is clueless but him? From the guy who thought Pasta could play for Canada? From the guy who said you couldn’t double retain irl? From the guy who showed up at the Fantasy Draft completely fucking lost and who didn’t read a thing? And still felt the need to say we were the assholes not knowing what’s up! I’m running the thing for fucks sake, I think I know what’s going on lmao. But still, you telling me in that moment I don’t know what’s going on??!? You call me names and shit in DMs, you do it to others as well. I know you think you have some special status because you’re 40+, and had a team back in the day. Good for you. We’re as happy to have you as I am anyone else. Doesn’t give you Carte Blanche to be an asshole all the time. Get over it, or move on Today’s not the day Kruze. I have no patience today
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Post by Aachen der Adlers GM on Aug 16, 2022 9:28:24 GMT -8
Say I need to drop some cap, and I make certain players available for that... but that's not the player's we get offers on, or it's "I'll take this guy, but you have to give me your best prospect(s) & a 2nd for taking on his salary.". Effectively trying to bully us into a trade cuz we're allegedly "desperate". If you fuck up your cap situation why is anybody inclined to help you out and take on a shitty contract for nothing in return? Cap space is just as valuable as any other asset on a roster. Look at the Hawks with Bickell, they had to trade Teravainen to get rid of his cap. The Leafs had to trade a 1st to get rid of Marleau. The Knights have traded Fleury and Pacioretty for nothing because they needed the cap space. The Sens had to add picks and retain to trade Murray, the Oilers gave up a 2nd and a 3rd to trade Kassian away. If you can't handle your cap that's your problem, nobody elses. I'll help you out of your situation but I damn well want something in return outside of the 80 overall plug making 3M more than he should be.
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