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Post by Detroit Rockers GM on Dec 18, 2021 14:12:12 GMT -8
To  G Jakub Skarek HYB 75 (22) .925M RFA 2023 SFF 2025 1st To  G Petr Mrazek HYB 83 (30) 2.000M UFA 2023 (RETAIN 1M) So I was looking for a second and just his backup with no ret, and I was not going to budge on that to keep open my 3rd slot for a guy like Stone but he said he'd send a 1st if I retained so not gonna pass this one up |
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Post by retro on Dec 18, 2021 14:14:42 GMT -8
Accepts, I needed the retention for cap, Skarek got 0 value for me as I have Zado being 75 at only 19 and if I want to get in the yoffs I need a backup like Mrazek who posted a .910 save % in a bad team. |
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Post by Yasogami Bruins GM on Dec 18, 2021 14:26:37 GMT -8
A first round pick for a backup goalie with 1 million retention on them is uh.. certainly a big price to pay… but if you really need it that bad..
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Post by Slovan Stags GM on Dec 18, 2021 14:28:40 GMT -8
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Post by retro on Dec 18, 2021 14:28:42 GMT -8
Ok here we go, people are gonna doubt my deals again. Look not trying to be rude but come on man. In rock em I did the same kinds of deal and I made the playoffs almost every year. Sometimes my trades look really weird but it works. I need Mrazek. He has been amazing and Skarek has been one of the reason I am not in one spot.
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Post by Slovan Stags GM on Dec 18, 2021 14:34:05 GMT -8
Yeah I get that. But that leash is only gonna take you so far. You don’t get a free pass forever just because you managed to pull some good seasons.
It’s not what you’re doing, it’s how you’re doing it
I personally wouldn’t pay even a 2nd for backup goalie at this point. I know there’s a bit of shortage, but I’m not so sure you’re gonna get a better performance than you could get from Skarek. Certainly not worthy of a 1st
I’m telling you right now, your problem ain’t Skarek
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Post by retro on Dec 18, 2021 14:46:17 GMT -8
Yeah I get that. But that leash is only gonna take you so far. You don’t get a free pass forever just because you managed to pull some good seasons. It’s not what you’re doing, it’s how you’re doing it I personally wouldn’t pay even a 2nd for backup goalie at this point. I know there’s a bit of shortage, but I’m not so sure you’re gonna get a better performance than you could get from Skarek. Certainly not worthy of a 1st I’m telling you right now, your problem ain’t Skarek I never said I should get a pass everytime. I didn't even said this were good seasons. I am just saying will this trade really ruin my franchise? Mrazek is beter than Skarek period. I don't see what's the hype with this "prospects" and future. Like why wait? Why not just go one year at a time. Trust me, I can do that forever and make the playoffs every year. How does the Carey Price trade get accepted and not this. I am gonna be honest, you keep telling me about how I overpay but the reality of it is that nobody accepts anything. But if you guys think it's better to reject, I totaly understand, I have respect for every of you and I think I should have looked more into it before accepting. You own this league so you know what's better for me so ok. |
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Post by Slovan Stags GM on Dec 18, 2021 15:26:04 GMT -8
Well, Im pretty familiar (sim leagues) with almost everyone here to a certain extend. And I kinda trust that most everybody isn’t trying to screw up the league, or won’t mess themselves so badly they bail. My hope is to have a league where rejects just aren’t really a thing, but thats probably unrealistic with new people coming in anyway
Having said all that, this deal sucks. Are you comparing Mrazek at 83 to fucking Carey Price 90?
I have no issue with your strategy. Hell, I kinda do that myself to a degree. But you’re eventually not gonna have any assets left to acquire the things you really need. You’re gonna back yourself into a corner more than you are by selling a high priced item for lower than it’s worth. So when eventually you’re pissed at Mrazek, (because again it ain’t your goaltending) you’re gonna sell him, but for less again. So your 1st turns into wtf ever Mrazek gets you.
I’m just trying to help you so you have a good team and enjoy yourself. There’s a pretty big difference in what you’re doing and what Jacksonville did. But Pittsburgh and I were taking this morning about whether or not that was a good deal, and WE didn’t even agree. So if that one was one the edge, you Thelma and Louise’d it with this one
Trying to be competitive every season, and not giving up is fine. And trading picks is fine. But I do hope if tried to trade my 1st OA pick for Koskinen someone would ask me if I was ok
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Post by Yasogami Bruins GM on Dec 18, 2021 15:43:57 GMT -8
Yeah I get that. But that leash is only gonna take you so far. You don’t get a free pass forever just because you managed to pull some good seasons. It’s not what you’re doing, it’s how you’re doing it I personally wouldn’t pay even a 2nd for backup goalie at this point. I know there’s a bit of shortage, but I’m not so sure you’re gonna get a better performance than you could get from Skarek. Certainly not worthy of a 1st I’m telling you right now, your problem ain’t Skarek will this trade really ruin my franchise? Your team doesn't have any good young players, trading a 1st round pick for a backup goalie is probably the last thing you want to do, especially a future 1st in your case Your forwards are a bunch of mid 80s all hovering around 30. Your best producer is 87 overall 30 year old Kevin Hayes who is on pace for a monstrous 15 goal, 44 point season. Your defence is Hedman, +2 mid level guys, and a bunch of shitters. Not to mention they're all fossils. I'm generally of the mindset that in other leagues 1st round picks were over-valued that changes a little here with no manual upgrades, but in your case this could 100% set your team back potentially years. Your roster outside of Hedman and Hellebuyck goalie is a complete crapshoot anyways is a bunch of old guys who stink, trading a 1st round pick for the one position you have absolutely no need for is the worst thing you could do right now. |
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Post by retro on Dec 18, 2021 15:55:08 GMT -8
Well, Im pretty familiar (sim leagues) with almost everyone here to a certain extend. And I kinda trust that most everybody isn’t trying to screw up the league, or won’t mess themselves so badly they bail. My hope is to have a league where rejects just aren’t really a thing, but thats probably unrealistic with new people coming in anyway Having said all that, this deal sucks. Are you comparing Mrazek at 83 to fucking Carey Price 90? I have no issue with your strategy. Hell, I kinda do that myself to a degree. But you’re eventually not gonna have any assets left to acquire the things you really need. You’re gonna back yourself into a corner more than you are by selling a high priced item for lower than it’s worth. So when eventually you’re pissed at Mrazek, (because again it ain’t your goaltending) you’re gonna sell him, but for less again. So your 1st turns into wtf ever Mrazek gets you. I’m just trying to help you so you have a good team and enjoy yourself. There’s a pretty big difference in what you’re doing and what Jacksonville did. But Pittsburgh and I were taking this morning about whether or not that was a good deal, and WE didn’t even agree. So if that one was one the edge, you Thelma and Louise’d it with this one Trying to be competitive every season, and not giving up is fine. And trading picks is fine. But I do hope if tried to trade my 1st OA pick for Koskinen someone would ask me if I was ok I am sorry maybe I am a noob and should not participate |
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Post by retro on Dec 18, 2021 16:02:23 GMT -8
will this trade really ruin my franchise? Your team doesn't have any good young players, trading a 1st round pick for a backup goalie is probably the last thing you want to do, especially a future 1st in your case Your forwards are a bunch of mid 80s all hovering around 30. Your best producer is 87 overall 30 year old Kevin Hayes who is on pace for a monstrous 15 goal, 44 point season. Your defence is Hedman, +2 mid level guys, and a bunch of shitters. Not to mention they're all fossils. I'm generally of the mindset that in other leagues 1st round picks were over-valued that changes a little here with no manual upgrades, but in your case this could 100% set your team back potentially years. Your roster outside of Hedman and Hellebuyck goalie is a complete crapshoot anyways is a bunch of old guys who stink, trading a 1st round pick for the one position you have absolutely no need for is the worst thing you could do right now. No young guys? Man check again. I have Rodion Amirov. He is having a rough season but he is not on the PP and scored 20 goals last year. Seth jarvis I got a lot of offers for him. Planton, L'Heureux. With all that I am trying to win now. Like OMG don't insult my team when you signed a bum ike Josi for like 20 million, focus on your team before talking, with all due respect. |
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Post by Slovan Stags GM on Dec 18, 2021 16:06:51 GMT -8
Well, Im pretty familiar (sim leagues) with almost everyone here to a certain extend. And I kinda trust that most everybody isn’t trying to screw up the league, or won’t mess themselves so badly they bail. My hope is to have a league where rejects just aren’t really a thing, but thats probably unrealistic with new people coming in anyway Having said all that, this deal sucks. Are you comparing Mrazek at 83 to fucking Carey Price 90? I have no issue with your strategy. Hell, I kinda do that myself to a degree. But you’re eventually not gonna have any assets left to acquire the things you really need. You’re gonna back yourself into a corner more than you are by selling a high priced item for lower than it’s worth. So when eventually you’re pissed at Mrazek, (because again it ain’t your goaltending) you’re gonna sell him, but for less again. So your 1st turns into wtf ever Mrazek gets you. I’m just trying to help you so you have a good team and enjoy yourself. There’s a pretty big difference in what you’re doing and what Jacksonville did. But Pittsburgh and I were taking this morning about whether or not that was a good deal, and WE didn’t even agree. So if that one was one the edge, you Thelma and Louise’d it with this one Trying to be competitive every season, and not giving up is fine. And trading picks is fine. But I do hope if tried to trade my 1st OA pick for Koskinen someone would ask me if I was ok I am sorry maybe I am a noob and should not participate No one’s saying that. I didn’t even reject. A couple things you’re forgetting about when bringing up that CHI team, Poltapov and Prokopenko. Huge part of that success. Those were drafted guys, just sayin Im not here to micromanage your team though. It’s not my style. Just giving my opinion like anyone else |
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Post by Yasogami Bruins GM on Dec 18, 2021 16:14:32 GMT -8
Your team doesn't have any good young players, trading a 1st round pick for a backup goalie is probably the last thing you want to do, especially a future 1st in your case Your forwards are a bunch of mid 80s all hovering around 30. Your best producer is 87 overall 30 year old Kevin Hayes who is on pace for a monstrous 15 goal, 44 point season. Your defence is Hedman, +2 mid level guys, and a bunch of shitters. Not to mention they're all fossils. I'm generally of the mindset that in other leagues 1st round picks were over-valued that changes a little here with no manual upgrades, but in your case this could 100% set your team back potentially years. Your roster outside of Hedman and Hellebuyck goalie is a complete crapshoot anyways is a bunch of old guys who stink, trading a 1st round pick for the one position you have absolutely no need for is the worst thing you could do right now. No young guys? Man check again. I have Rodion Amirov. He is having a rough season but he is not on the PP and scored 20 goals last year. Seth jarvis I got a lot of offers for him. Planton, L'Heureux. With all that I am trying to win now. Like OMG don't insult my team when you signed a bum ike Josi for like 20 million, focus on your team before talking, with all due respect. Amirov and L'Heureux are likely going to be mid 80s at best. Your best one is Jarvis, but even he's on pace for a 15 goal, 29 point season right now. Unless you get some guys surrounding him he's not going to grow very well because his numbers are going to suck. |
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Post by retro on Dec 18, 2021 16:21:44 GMT -8
No young guys? Man check again. I have Rodion Amirov. He is having a rough season but he is not on the PP and scored 20 goals last year. Seth jarvis I got a lot of offers for him. Planton, L'Heureux. With all that I am trying to win now. Like OMG don't insult my team when you signed a bum ike Josi for like 20 million, focus on your team before talking, with all due respect. Amirov and L'Heureux are likely going to be mid 80s at best. Your best one is Jarvis, but even he's on pace for a 15 goal, 29 point season right now. Unless you get some guys surrounding him he's not going to grow very well because his numbers are going to suck. |
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Post by Iceland Crazy Vikings GM on Dec 18, 2021 16:31:27 GMT -8
retroThere's nothing wrong with taking a while to be good. For what it's worth, sometimes the way to win is by taking it slow and not trying to win immediately. That's how Joubran and I got our cups. We let the sim do its thing and didn't try to fight it. We rolled with what we had and we got fortunate. But you always panic and try to force your team to be good. It rarely works like that. Maybe you get into the playoffs but that's a whole different thing than the regular season. I reccomend you stop panicking and instead you try building for the future. Only one person wins the cup each season, so panicking at the start of each season and throwing away your picks at the offchance you're the one guy who wins is extremely risky and basically never works.
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Post by retro on Dec 18, 2021 16:49:42 GMT -8
retro There's nothing wrong with taking a while to be good. For what it's worth, sometimes the way to win is by taking it slow and not trying to win immediately. That's how Joubran and I got our cups. We let the sim do its thing and didn't try to fight it. We rolled with what we had and we got fortunate. But you always panic and try to force your team to be good. It rarely works like that. Maybe you get into the playoffs but that's a whole different thing than the regular season. I reccomend you stop panicking and instead you try building for the future. Only one person wins the cup each season, so panicking at the start of each season and throwing away your picks at the offchance you're the one guy who wins is extremely risky and basically never works. Maybe that's why I didn't win a cup with the hawks. This makes me think. i'll never change, I'll never feel good with being patient I'll try the best I can tho. |
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Post by Slovan Stags GM on Dec 18, 2021 17:12:48 GMT -8
retro There's nothing wrong with taking a while to be good. For what it's worth, sometimes the way to win is by taking it slow and not trying to win immediately. That's how Joubran and I got our cups. We let the sim do its thing and didn't try to fight it. We rolled with what we had and we got fortunate. But you always panic and try to force your team to be good. It rarely works like that. Maybe you get into the playoffs but that's a whole different thing than the regular season. I reccomend you stop panicking and instead you try building for the future. Only one person wins the cup each season, so panicking at the start of each season and throwing away your picks at the offchance you're the one guy who wins is extremely risky and basically never works. Maybe that's why I didn't win a cup with the hawks. This makes me think. i'll never change, I'll never feel good with being patient I'll try the best I can tho. You do your thing man. I don’t want you to feel hampered. But I also don’t want you to become the go to stop when someone needs a 1st RD pick. There’s some vultures (ravens) around here  |
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Post by Detroit Rockers GM on Dec 19, 2021 4:17:55 GMT -8
Reject/Final
Mb for this one Ik it a bit bigger win but he has been around and he's not brand new and I was not gonna do the deal he wanted he threw it at me and well frankly if he was brand new Id steer him away but he's not so... But ill just reject it move to Rejected and we can all move on with our sim lives
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Post by retro on May 1, 2022 18:30:44 GMT -8
Wow I actually cannot believe what I almost did. Wondering what happened to me that day.
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Post by retro on May 1, 2022 18:33:11 GMT -8
Y'all saved me
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Post by Macon Whoopee GM on May 1, 2022 18:34:56 GMT -8
These jokers get a thing or two right once in a blue moon lol |
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Post by retro on May 1, 2022 18:36:41 GMT -8
These jokers get a thing or two right once in a blue moon lol I never understand this sentences, are you busting my chops buddy? |
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Post by Macon Whoopee GM on May 1, 2022 18:39:34 GMT -8
These jokers get a thing or two right once in a blue moon lol I never understand this sentences, are you busting my chops buddy? Not at all. If anything, I am having a little fun with the guys who rejected it. It is a very fortunate thing the deal was rejected and it shows that sometimes things that seem upsetting at first, work out in the end. You are a good GM in my books San Fran. You run a tight ship over there and it is respectable. |
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Post by retro on May 1, 2022 18:42:19 GMT -8
I never understand this sentences, are you busting my chops buddy? Not at all. If anything, I am having a little fun with the guys who rejected it. It is a very fortunate thing the deal was rejected and it shows that sometimes things that seem upsetting at first, work out in the end. You are a good GM in my books San Fran. You run a tight ship over there and it is respectable. Thank you so much, you're such a great GM yourself and you got such a great personality  |
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Post by Yasogami Bruins GM on May 2, 2022 0:38:55 GMT -8
These jokers get a thing or two right once in a blue moon lol I never understand this sentences, are you busting my chops buddy? Mmmm new pasta |
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Post by Traktor Chelyabinsk GM on May 2, 2022 6:20:44 GMT -8
I never understand this sentences, are you busting my chops buddy? Mmmm new pasta  |
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